such_heights | Doctor Who 6x05

Ooh! Ooh! What is happening?!

So, mostly setting the plot and guest character stuff aside for the moment because I am reserving judgement until next week - I like base under siege plots and 'omg the clones are alive!' plots, but am hoping the resolution will be more interesting than usual - let us talk characters and arc stuff.

+ Everyone felt off this week, yes? Which I hope is deliberate - Rory and the Doctor, particularly, both seem to have Shenanigans going on of various kinds. The first scene with the darts in the TARDIS was ADORABLE OMG, but after that everyone seemed off-kilter.

+ Clearly the Doctor knows more about what's going on than he's letting on and is somewhat distracted from Amy and Rory by whatever that is.

+ RORY, DARLING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING. You are not usually one to run recklessly into danger, as you yourself say at the beginning of the episode! But as has been pointed out to me, well, he's going to be particularly invested in this situation. Rory, after all, knows exactly what it's like to be a plastic copy of yourself. So I hope that this is all deliberate and that's where they're going with his arc in this story, because that is very cool and sad. And in general I thought this was a really interesting episode for Rory, how he's not a natural one for heroism and adventure but is so strongly motivated by people needing him. <3

+ Needed Moar Amy. I am happy for Rory to get some story of his own, but all three of them should get cool storylines every week, and also I want a pony!

+ TWO DOCTORS OMG. Is the ganger!Doctor going to stick around and be the one who dies in 6x01? What does the Doctor know that he isn't letting on? What is WITH Amy's Schroedinger baby and the cyborg door lady? Etc etc.

+ Is it next Saturday yet?

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My spoiler avoidance policy worked. I didn't realise that it was a two-parter right up until the last scene. :) (And switched off before the preview of next week. Why yes, I am hardcore about this.)

Agree that they felt 'off' -- the whole thing felt rather like a replay of Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, in fact -- but then that hour-unconscious gap allows for a lot of shenanigans to be going on in terns of who's really who (or indeed Who). Also agree that the Doctor seems to know how gangers developed subsequently and that it's not something he likes much.

I did wish though that they'd at least referred in passing to the fact that Rory more than anyone knows what the Gangers are going through. When the script doesn't it's worrying, in case they've actually overlooked it! (Like Voyager with the holodeck-playing-real-Maquis two-parter.)

I guessed as soon as it became clear what gangers were that this might be the missing factor in 6x01, but now ganger!Doctor has actually showed up I rather doubt that, since it's a bit too obvious too early. Unless ganger!Doctor is going to be the one who continues, of course.

I salute you, sir! Impressive work. (I do not have that kind of willpower - pretty much the first thing I did after the episode was go and check out the preview clips on the BBC website.)

I had forgotten about the hour gap, that's a good point! Hmmmm. And I have to assume that they'll reference the Rory thing next week otherwise I agree, that's just an oversight.

But as has been pointed out to me, well, he's going to be particularly invested in this situation. Rory, after all, knows exactly what it's like to be a plastic copy of yourself.

That's what I felt it was? But I feel like it's weird that he didn't say that to Amy or the Doctor at some point. So maybe it's a line for the next episode.

I also feel like this season is exploring Rory a lot more (thank god) and he needs to fix/protect things in a Nursey type way. Which I really enjoy.

I do hate two-parters though. I hope next weeks proves why it was necessary to split these two.

Yeah, I really hope that's a deliberate omission, because it seems too obvious a connection not to make!

He had that line about 'I know you understand why I have to do this,' which I assumed was referencing that, but the line felt like it was delivered more to the Doctor than Amy. That said, if they don't make the Centurion reference clear in the next half, I will kill them.

Oh this is a two-parter!

Well, I guess I'll have a lot of Who to watch next week!

(I have a Policy on two-parters that aren't series finales, nowadays .. . )

Ah, that is possibly sensible! See you next week. :D

I'm almost sick of the Cyborg Door Lady and the not!baby. Okay, we get it, it's like the foreshadowing stick--in terms of mytharc, I am far more interested in the Time Girl and the older Doctor, because we haven't had that beat into our heads.

I agree that they all felt a bit off in this episode. I thought it might just be the situation, but maybe it's the writing.

Yes, me too - I am hoping that goes somewhere very soon and we start getting some more info, like with the cracks last season. I'm looking forward to seeing how this week plays out!

I didn't know it was a two parter until the last ten minutes when it started to become obvious it wasn't going to be wrapped up in ten minutes. To which I say: yay! This was a great episode. Fantastic opening. Good guest characters, interesting plot, fast paced, engaging! Why wasn't the pirate episode this good? They can do it, they know how to do this.

Anyway, yes to so much you've said. I completely overlooked Rory's history as a duplicate would make him sympathetic to ganger Jennifer. I suspected that Rory and Amy were gangers - did you see Rory throw himself at Cleeves and damage the weapon she was using? When they arrived Rory didn't want to continue in to potentially dangerous situation, he wanted to return to the TARDIS. At the end Rory was running into danger to help non-ganger Jennifer. Hold on, am I confused?

Rory and Amy did a fair bit of silent communication through expressions and whispering to each other in the background which just made me happy. <3 married <3

Yeah, I suspect there may be more ganger twists to come! It seems too obvious and interesting not to play with more.

Flesh --> Autons, Y/N? And that's why Rory hasn't been highlighting his previous Auton-ness, because it would give away the next episode too early?

I really like this theory now that I've seen it around - I hope so!

OMG I love the little domestic TARDIS moments so much. Like Amy and Rory saying goodnight and going to bed, or the darts, which were so adorable.

I knoooow omg. Marrieds! <33

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