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[such_heights]

+ I am still looking for vids about robots! Thanks to everyone who's dropped links there so far, I'm still working my way through them all. Particularly if anyone has any recs for Transformers, The Matrix, or other robot films in downloadable format, that would be amazing. And, you know, if anyone feels moved to make a premiere for me, you should totally feel free to do that. *g*

+ I am also starting to think about halfamoon again! It is a two-week fannish celebration of female characters that starts February 1st. And on this occasion I am thinking about female characters who get character-bashed a lot. This was my preliminary list:

- Martha Jones, Doctor Who
- River Song, Doctor Who
- Gwen Cooper, Torchwood
- Guinevere, Merlin
- Jennifer Keller, SGA
- Anastasia 'Dee' Dualla, BSG
- Nyota Uhura, Star Trek Reboot
- Ginny Weasley, Harry Potter

... not entirely coincidentally, that's also a list of some of my favourite characters in each of those fandoms.

Obligatory disclaimer: obviously there is a difference between drinking the hateorade and just disliking a character! I personally totally heart all of those ladies, but even if I didn't I'd be pretty appalled at the treatment they have received in fandom from some quarters. *cough*TORCHWOOD*cough*

Who would you add? Obviously there is pretty much every woman who's ever been on Supernatural. With some of my shows, I'm not too familiar with the fandom so wouldn't know. Is there a lot of female character bashing in Firefly or A:TLA, for instance? (I HOPE NOT; THAT WOULD BE REALLY SAD.)

Comments

[fizzyblogic]

I am basically not in any fandoms properly now because everywhere I turn there is THIS FEMALE CHARACER SUCKS AND SHOULD FEEL BAD and it makes me back away very quickly and never go near that fandom again. Enjoy the source and rec'd fanworks without mysogyny, yes. Make my own fanworks because I love the source and have something to say, yes. Participate in the fandom itself, no. This has happened with every fandom. Ack.

Rose, Donna and Amy come in for a lot of hate in Doctor Who fandom, too; basically, if a companion is female, a vocal portion of fandom will hate her for no good reason. Also Hermione (I have seen the worst insults leveled against any fictional character thrown at her), Lily (she was once mean to Snape, you see, therefore she is evil), Cho (gah the shit Katie Leung got when she was cast D: ), others I have no doubt blocked from my memory. Harry Potter fandom is vicious in many parts.

There's a lot less of it in fandoms for sources that are primarily about women — Buffy and Babysitters Club is mostly my experience with these, although with Buffy most of the fic is m/m for some reason (WHY? WHY WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY AWESOME FEMSLASH PAIRINGS WOULD MOST OF THE FIC BE M/M? WHYYYYYYYY) so I count that against it, and there are always going to be a small number of fans who dislike characters for whichever personal reasons — but, like, Rosie Cotton is hated by certain parts of LotR fandom so I just give up on the whole venture and stick to my woman-friendly tiny corners of fandoms D:

Speaking of, halfamoon! Thank you for the reminder; it's been at the back of my mind to make a few things for it, but I forgot how soon it is. I should get on with those vids I'm planning to make!

[such_heights]

I HEAR YOU, ICK. It's so horrible and depressing and I hate running into it. And yet it's so hard to avoid!

It's ridiculous with Doctor Who, I was thinking about and picking the characters that get the most shit, because they pretty much all get hated on somewhere by someone. Though I don't think I've ever seen any Donna-bashing, actually! And I have no desire for that change. My feeling was that both Rose and Amy are popular characters who have some vocal haters, whereas it seems like the majority of fandom decided to totally reject Martha and to a lesser extent River. Neither are okay, really! D:

Ack, those are good points about Lily and Cho! Also I know Molly gets a really hard time. I didn't know Hermione got so much hate, though, that's really depressing - I was never in that corner of fandom, though in fairness in my end there was a lot of Tonks hate going around.

FANDOM. WHY YOU GOTTA BE THIS WAY.

But yay, halfamoon! I'll be so excited to see anything you come up with!