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Doctor Who 4x13

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01. There was so much hugging in this! Yay! A couple we were denied, but mostly speaking, loooots of hugging which was made of yay. Rose & Martha possibly my favourite, eeee. (Girlslash now, plz?)
02. On that note, EVERY COMPANION FLYING THE TARDIS. I DIED OF GLEE.
03. Mickey! Jackie! Just seeing them was fantastic, and omg Mickey in Torchwood? WITH MARTHA? *goes boom* I really didn't want to believe those rumours in case they were too good to be true. Other people are 'meh' about this, I know, but I think it's FANTASTIC, so there we are. Plus, to be honest, it's sensible in terms of writing for the shortened Torchwood S3.
04. Jack and Martha, bffs, ftw once more!
05. Tosh saving Gwen and Ianto! That's my woman! ♥ ♥ ♥
06. I adored the way they took the arcs of What It Is to be a companion and What It Is to be the Doctor and really blew them outwards in such a direct way. I've been thinking and thinking about what was said in this episode and I still haven't got it all sorted. Brain food, mmmm, so tasty. Loved all that.
07. Time Lady!Donna! NEVER HAVE I SEEN SUCH AN AMAZING THING IN ALL MY DAYS ON THIS EARTH. Aaaaaaaaah!!!! I want to watch those bits FOREVER AND EVER, and undoubtedly shall over the coming months.
08. I know I'm forgetting a whole bunch of other things that were fantastic. Oh! Jack's imagined fourway with the various Doctors, hahahaha, I can has that fic now please? And oh there was a massive laugh at the screening I was at with his INCREDIBLY PHALLIC bit of TARDIS flying. Oh, Jack. (Needed moar snuggles with his team post-Daleks, but alas.)
09. I am still thinking on the whole Rose/alt!Doctor thing, have yet to get my head around it. Veeeery interesting, though.
10. Oh, and most importantly, DONNA. D: There's a distinct possibility I'm never really going to recover, Jesus.
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The end broke my heart into a million pieces, but I still loved it. The moment they did the Time Lord-human mind meld, I knew something like that had to happen, and... yeah. Something like that had to happen. DONNA. :(
I haven't been paying attention to the rumors, but Martha and Mickey at Torchwood? SERIOUSLY? That is the BEST EVER.
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And the whole Donna bit broke my heart. But I loved it all.
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And I am so glad I'm not alone, because I came online ready to be squeed at and mostly there was just light moaning.
I'm still not coherent, I need to rewatch it and sort it all out in my head. Yep there were cheesy bits, but I didn't mind them. The team flying the console was amazing and I love that they needed Torchwood and Luke and K9 at the end. And I loved the fact that each of these deux-ex-machina like plot device endings were set up and failed, with the exception of the threefold Doctor of course and that was alright, because it entailed such a sacrifice for our Doctor.
And for Donna, of course. Oh I sobbed and sobbed (my niece was watching it with out neighbours who own their own Daleks and actually came round to check my reaction because she was the only one crying over there). This was the perfect sort of heartbreaking ending for me, I've seen a lot of people say it would be much better if she'd just died - but for me this hurt a lot more because the loss seems greater somehow and the Doctor having to choose to leave his best friend. Ouch. Plus I know people are angry that she went back to being the old her - but that gives me hope because the Doctor only awakened her potential, she had it already and now everyone around her knows how awesome she is so things will be different. I think people will expect more of her and push her and things will change. Plus the Doctors still in her head, he's just sleeping (and I bet he dreams sometimes). But it is still tragic (it reminds me of how horrible it felt in Turn Left when Martha died having never met the Doctor).
I didn't mind the human!Doctor going off with Rose either - although it makes my head ache, but I think in a good way. I think maybe it doesn't feel sappy to me (the main complaint I've seen) because it's all sorts of wrong and going to be difficult and complicated and wonderful, which is how I like relationships. Plus it doesn't really change my own belief that the real Doctor couldn't have ever loved Rose in the way she loved him, although she's maybe the closest he got - I just don't think he works like that, which is just a personal thing.
Too much to say but better stop now.
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I'm not too worried, though I am horribly depressed about it. My reasoning is that she never met the Doctor in "Turn Left" and she still was that same awesomecakes!Donna that we know and love.
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What happened to Donna broke my heart but I was really surprised to see people saying she would have been better dead because either a) she's worthless or b) her life without the Doctor is worthless.
Which gets a massive WTF from me.
Because:
a) Like you said she was totally awesome before the Doctor came along, it was just nobody saw it even herself (which is probably why she fell so hard and fast and determinedly when Lance showed her some attention). Now even though she might not yet see it, everyone else has and they are going to treat her differently which will change the course of her life. Plus as a piece of personal canon, I like to think that the little bit of the Doctor that might still be rattling around inside her is his curiosity and that that could help spark her own which was really well shown in Turn Left (if that makes any sense).
b) This seems to me like fandom buying into the whole idea that life without the Doctor can't be positive or meaningful, which ruined the Rose story for me in the end. Don't get me wrong, life with the Doctor is obviously fantastically mind-blowing (most of the time) but that doesn't mean that there aren't things to do and experiences to have and life to live on Earth too. Plus life on earth is rapidly expanding knowledge wise in the new universe. I've seen suggestions that the former idea is exactly what the programme is trying to suggest and it does in some storylines but others show that that's not true - i.e. Martha and Jack and post-School Reunion Sarah Jane. Plus we saw in Forest of the Dead that Donna could be happy with a normal life and that she does want to find love and have children - something that probably couldn't have happened if she'd stayed with the Doctor. So even though those were things I think she would have willingly sacrificed to be with him but that doesn't mean she cant have a wonderful satisfying life without him. We all have to make do with what's given to us but that isn't always a tragic disappointment. (Whups got a bit over-involved there)
I will miss her though.
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DONNA. WHYYYY. Aside from that (and the obvious emotional trauma and turmoil of pinstripes!Doctor, who I think will always harbor resentment toward bluesuit!Doctor because he gets to be with Rose), I loved most everything about this ep. Especially Companion Awesome and the phrase "You make human beings into weapons."
Jack's imagined fourway with the various Doctors, hahahaha, I can has that fic now please?
I'm already working on a 10/Jack/10.5 sandwich. Donna may or may not end up in there as well. I think I still owe you a birthday fic, so...we'll see about that. :D
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