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Amy ([personal profile] such_heights) wrote2008-12-03 06:09 pm

Because, you know, I need a new fandom like a hole in the head

Dear LJ,

Today I slept a great deal and watched four episodes of Merlin. It was a good day.

Okay, I should have trusted you all in your infinite wisdom from the get-go. IT'S AWESOME. I love Merlin, he's adorable! I love the way all the plots are incredibly predictable! I love Richard Wilson and Anthony Head! I LOVE Gwen and Morgana!

I can has Morgana/Gwen recs now, plz? I mean, yes yes, the Arthur/Merlin, oh it is blatant, and omg Merlin/Gwen is so cute I can hardly stand it, but I am blindsided by the Gwen/Morgana. Like the episode where everyone's dying of the icky plague thing, and Gwen gives one flower to Merlin (n'awwww) and ALL THE REST TO MORGANA, hee! ♥ ♥ ♥

Also, I hear tell the episodes actually get a lot better soon? I am excited! :D

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Also, though I'm not allowing myself to dive into the exchange properly until my own story is finished and submitted, grah, [livejournal.com profile] rs_small_gifts has started posting! And all looks wondrous. What I did manage to read was the following, and it was excellent:

Waiting For The Great Leap Forward, by [livejournal.com profile] woldy
Harry Potter ; Remus/Sirius ; PG-13
Four winters in Remus' life, told backwards.

This is a wonderfully intelligent story, on class differences and politics and how Remus and Sirius fell apart. It's quite a bit heartbreaking, but in such a plausible way, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Merlin, Merlin, Merlin! zomg. It is so heartwarming and gleeful and, and they have a dragon and it is an Arthur/Merlin shipper.

It is the gayest little show that could. And I mean that for all values of gay including happy & joyous. And it's so cheerfully anachronistic! Like, on purpose. SO CLEVER.

Also, you have upcoming episodes where there is camping out and Gwen and Morgana IN BED TOGETHER. Yes.

I ship everyone on it, including Gaius/Uther.

[identity profile] demotu.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It is so the gayest little show that could. I adore it and its deliberate anachronisms. Everyone is slashed like whoa, they aren't even TRYING. I am half expecting the beeb to actually get Arthur and Merlin together, only I find I have no inclination to seek out adult fanfic for them - just epic foretold romance.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Meeeeerlin! LOL. I'm so hooked on this cheesy, ridiculous show. Ngl, I'm a Arthur/Morgana shipper (in case the icon didn't give it away, heh), but I do know that there are a lot of good Arthur/Merlin fics out there. From what I've heard from other people in the fandom, there isn't as much good Morgana/Gwen and when people do pair them off it's more of a "remove the girls from the equation so Arthur and Merlin can be together". I'm sure that if you go poking around though you can find some.

I'm a huge Morgana fangirl, so I like any episode where she plays a part. :D Thus, my favorite episode is The Beginning of the End which is episode... 8, I think. But episode 12 (this week's episode) is going to feature Morgana really heavily. I'm ridiculously excited.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It's really funny because it's the little anachronistics that get me. Like, I know it's on purpose. But things like Merlin (and his mother) being literate drive me up the wall. Why would a peasant woman be able to write a letter to Gaius? Dives me nuts. But I know that the creators are just trying to convey "generic fantasy" and aren't going for a particular time period. So I have to quash the history person inside of me.

[identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I love it because it always seems to be doing it with a wink. And also, I'd just come off watchingtrying to watch the BBC Robin Hood which starts out with a date, and then garbs all its characters in outfits that I literally see in hipster stores all the time. I'd much rather they chuck it all out the window and tell me they are in Ye Olde Lande of Somme Fantastickale Descriptione and giggle about its arthurian legend highschool AUness. It is self-aware and I love that. And the little meta-nods - Geoffrey of Monmouth, etc... just punch it up for me.

tl;dr I'd much rather they did this, then go for historical accuracy and inevitably fail.
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[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL. Omg. Robin Hood. That show. hahaha. It's so much fun if you just turn your brain off. I seriously couldn't stop laughing when Elanor of Aquitain was the "national treasure". I usually turn Robin Hood on for background noise when I'm doing other work.

But yeah, I think deliberately not giving it a date is a really good move on Merlin's part. Because the legend itself sort of theoretically would be placed more in the early Middle Ages, but it embodied and became popular in the High Middle Ages. So idk, I do like that they're not trying to set it in somewhere specific. Although I love the Mists of Avalon which definitely is setting the legend in a specific place and time. Idk. I love that about Arthurian legend. I love that it's so flexible.
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[identity profile] hibernate.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a wee bit crazy about Morgana, and I must tell you that Morgana/Gwen is sorely lacking in the fandom. I was so disappointed, because how can you NOT ship those two?! THEY ARE EPIC!

It took me awhile to accept the show's, er, "interesting" approach to myth and history, but once I did, I was totally sold. Morgana's awesomeness helped, of course.
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[identity profile] rosiphelee.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I've been catching up on it too, in any odd moments I have free. I adore it, and disagree with everyone who says it's anachronistic. Nobody's ever written a convincing historical Arthur (post-Roman native chieftain resisting the Saxons). It's absolutely in the spirit of the medieval romances which were so anachronistic they'd make your eyes bleed.

And so many sly references to myth ^_^ *loves the dragon under the castle*
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[identity profile] sundayave.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
AHA 'TIS VERY AWESOME INDEED. It's so ridiculously shippy, I LOVE IT DEARLY ♥. And yes, hurry up for this week's ep sounds and looks utterly promising and yeah, just, you know, it's finale time soon too! :D

As for fic, I'm sure you've seen [livejournal.com profile] merlinbbc, but there's also [livejournal.com profile] merlin_ljguide, which is a fandom guide of sorts, and they're always adding new comms and so forth. One of them is bound to have something of interest ;P.
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[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The producers themselves have said it anachronistic. But it's on purpose. When people complain that there are anachronisms, they mean that there are elements of X time period and Y time period existing side by side. But the writers and producers have said that they do that on purpose in order to give the series more of general fantasy setting as opposed to a historical place and time.
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[identity profile] rosiphelee.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I hadn't heard that. That's interesting. I've seen a few people being sniffy about the anachronisms, but I love them (it drove my Year Eight class up the wall when we watched it in a lesson).

I'd love to know who was providing them with their source material, because it's one of those things, like A Knight's Tale, which is a lot less ignorant than it's trying to appear.

[identity profile] liseuse.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay! I'm glad that people on my flist are loving it. I love it so. It's the Little Show That Could! It basically makes me happy for 45 minutes each week, and I LOVE IT FOR THAT.

I'm even learning to love the anachronisms because they're done with such glee. Strawberries! Arthur eating strawberries in front of Merlin! LOVE.

[identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It's absolutely in the spirit of the medieval romances which were so anachronistic they'd make your eyes bleed.

I 100% agree. That's another reason why it's so awesome.

And so many sly references to myth ^_^ *loves the dragon under the castle*

And Emrys! They call Merlin Emrys! *loves*

[identity profile] fairlilith.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee!

Oh yes, blatant slash all around. Boys and girls alike. And because the Dragon said so.

I watched the Plague episode only yesterday and the flowers from Gwen to Morgana are indeed a dead giveaway.

Welcome to the fandom of the other Boy Wizard! :)
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[identity profile] sunnyrea.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You and your wonderful recs, always gutting me
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[identity profile] rosiphelee.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, if they modernised that, he'd be called Ambrose.

Somehow, that doesn't quite fit the mood of the thing. ^_^
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[identity profile] rosiphelee.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a shameless Arthurian geek. One of things I love most about the whole myth cycle is the way that every century finds a new way to rework the material. You can tell a lot about an era by the way its populist writers tackle the Matter of Britain.

[identity profile] lorannah.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
:D

You might already know this, but a significant figure in post Roman Britain was Ambrosius Aurealis who many think may have been an early inspiration for Arthur.

Pretty close to Ambrose.

[identity profile] lorannah.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee!

I am so happy that you love it. I am still full of flail about how much I now love it. I've practically had to padlock my wallet this week to stop myself buying the first DVD set - I really want to wait until the full boxset comes out - but I missed a couple of early episodes (i.e. the plague episode at least) and my download speed is abysmal... it's so, so tempting.

I just can't believe how much I love every character - I even really like Nimueh - and I may be moving towards shipping her with Morgana or Merlin or both (apparently OT3 is my new thing as I also seem to be heading that way with my nano novel).

Anyway, welcome to the madhouse

XD
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[identity profile] rosiphelee.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been watching them on the BBC website, which even my temperamental internet connection has coped with so far.

Here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/merlin/#/episodes/3/), in case you haven't found them already.



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[identity profile] rosiphelee.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* I always quite liked Mary Stewart's take on it in The Crystal Cave, where Merlin was supposed to be Ambrosius' illegitimate son (can't remember if it was clearly announced in the novel or just unmissable implications).

Aurealianus is a fascinating figure - a sort of precursor of Arthur. I'm intrigued enough by him that I pinched his name for one of the key characters in my novel.

[identity profile] lorannah.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
P.S. While I 100% agree that this is the best sort of joyous tv, which is why I love it, I also feel the need to warn you that what was supposed to be a silly little programme made me cry two weeks ago.

But in the good way.

Which is also why I love it. :D

[identity profile] lorannah.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks.

I've not tried the streaming yet, but I have downloaded a couple while they were available - I think it took two days or something close.

Going back to a dial up equivalent is hard.

:(

[identity profile] lorannah.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee.

I thought you might have known.

I've not read the Mary Stewart book, I think I'll put it on my reading list for next year. I'm actually horrendously badly read on Arthurian stuff, just the Once and Future King and a few kids fantasies that use it as backstory, so if you have any recomendations they'd be greatly appreciated.

I have been geekily enjoying reading about 'sub-Roman' Britain recently - although I hate that name for it, silly archaeologists and was really intrigued by Aurealis, enough so that he worked his way into my nano novel this year. His bits definitely going to be rewritten though, once I have time for better research.

Nano is too rushed.

[identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
AHAHAH MY ENTIRE FLIST IS FALLING FOR IT! I love love love the show and its slight rubbishness and its crack and its shiny and YES the last three episodes have been Good TV, caps included. It's a bit like Torchwood, really - starts like crack, and then suddenly reveils its HIDDEN DEPTHS. LOL.
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[identity profile] rosiphelee.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I like most of The Crystal Cave, but I got quite irritated with the later books.

My favourite pseudo-historical Arthurian novel is Catherine Christian's The Sword and the Flame (Some editions were called The Pendragon). It's Bedivere's perspective and it's beautiful and satisfying and heart-wrenching. Sadly, it's also out of print, but there are secondhand copies around.

a few kids fantasies that use it as backstory, - Susan Cooper?

*waves at [livejournal.com profile] such_heights* Sorry for hijacking your post with Arthurian geekery.
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[personal profile] gorgeousnerd 2008-12-04 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I am tragically American and can't watch Merlin. Considering I know it has Tony Head, this distresses me greatly. *sigh*

In other news, wow, that Sirius/Remus fic was amazing. I never really considered class differences in their relationship before, but now I feel like I should have.

[identity profile] multiclassgeek.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Proxies. Proxies are your friends.

Find a UK-based proxy, and you should be fine.

One of these (http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm) should sort you out. Or google for it.

[identity profile] multiclassgeek.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I swear, at one point, the Librarian Guy referenced a book that actually exists in the real world... And is actually a book of Arthurian Legend.

Can't remember which ep, though.

[identity profile] multiclassgeek.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
YES! The world totally needs more Morgana/Gwen (and I'm not just saying that because I'm male. Those two are *awesome* as a team, and as a pairing). The boys get all the fun because the fandom is overwhelmingly female, but still...
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[personal profile] woldy 2008-12-04 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmn, all this slashy enthusiasm about Merlin makes me think I need to investigate. Especially if there's femslash potential. *adds to Xmas viewing list*

I'm really glad you enjoyed the fic. I worried that it would come across as preachy and/or terribly obscure to the non-Brits, but somehow I didn't notice that it was a depressing story until other people mentioned it. *headdesk*